16:01 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Hello. Welcome to the Anti Abuse Working Group. My name is Rumy from the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring chat during this session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out for you. Please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available to the public on https://rip
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16:05 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Are there any questions or comments about the AA-WG charter?
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16:09 < Rumy_RIPENCC> are there any comments on the proof of identity discussions?
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16:12 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Marco has started his presentation: interactions with Law Enforcement Agencies
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16:18 < Rumy_RIPENCC> are there any questions for Marco?
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16:26 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Jerome Cudelou from M3AAWG has started his presentation: Anti-abuse, the view from the messaging world
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16:39 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Are there any questions or comments for Jerome?
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16:45 < Rumy_RIPENCC> the presentation has now ended
16:47 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Bengt Gördén has started his presentation: Impact of abuse-c
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17:04 < Rumy_RIPENCC> are there any questions for Bengt?
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17:14 < Rumy_RIPENCC> the presentation has ended
17:14 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Denis Walker and Christian Teuschel have started their presentation: Abuse-c: next steps
17:24 < gilles> One question and two comments for the presenters:
17:24 < gilles> * You mentioned collaboration with CSIRTs. However, the existing IRT objects are becoming more and more invisible (which is a contradiction). If that trend continues, would it be possible to reference an IRT from the abuse-c, or at least add the useful IRT features (like PGP keys) to the abuse-c?
17:24 < gilles> *About extended attributes: Iâd love to see relaxed constraints. Like copyright-abuse-mailbox: NULL , for signalling that one should not expect an answer to that specific kind of messages.
17:24 < gilles> * And finally: Please, do not touch the IRT objects without discussing it in the WG.
17:25 < gilles> From: Gilles Massen, RESTENA
17:25 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Ok, will read them out
17:25 < Rumy_RIPENCC> thanks Gilles
17:25 < Rumy_RIPENCC> is that pronounced the french way, btw?
17:26 < gilles> Thanks Rumy, sorry for being long. (yes, french)
17:26 < Rumy_RIPENCC> no worries - i feel useful now :P
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17:38 < gilles> Thanks Rumy!
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17:38 < Rumy_RIPENCC> you're very welcome!
17:38 < gilles> (btw, that makes you the first not to mangle my name :) )
17:38 < Rumy_RIPENCC> French roots ;)
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17:50 < Rumy_RIPENCC> Aaron Kaplan has started his presentation: Introduction to contact databases for abuse handling
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17:53 < amd2-ripe> are the slides available somewhere ?
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17:54 < amd2-ripe> (or at least, will be made so)
17:54 < Rumy_RIPENCC> checked with Brian - he will follow up to make sure they will be available
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17:54 < amd2-ripe> cool
17:54 < brian-1213> Foolishly wasn't here, will ask Aaron about that when he's finished speaking.
17:54 < amd2-ripe> yeah, doesn't have to be now, just for reference later :)
17:57 < Rumy_RIPENCC> are there any questions for Aaron?
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18:00 < Rumy_RIPENCC> the session is now over